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World Handicapping System Questions and Answers update 28th December 2020

World Handicapping System Additional Questions and answers (28/12/2020)

Question I would like to query my handicap index of 19.7. Previously my handicap at Tytherington was 26 and I am struggling to understand why, under the WHS it has reduced so much. I have spoken to fellow members at Tytherington who had similar handicaps to me and have had very minor changes to their handicap under WHS. Please can you clarify for me. Many thanks.

Answer  The player in question had only 3 qualifying score differentials dating back to January 2018. He secured his first handicap in October 2019. Since the player has not got the full 20 qualifying scores. His handicap Index will be based upon the WHS calculation table as set out below. The best of his 3 scores was 100 gross score differential playing from the white tees.

The calculation is: 113 (neutral slope rating) divided by 139 (white Course slope rating) = 0.81295 Total   then   MULTIPLIED By 100 (gross differential) minus 73.3 (White Course Rating) Grand Total of 21.7

This Score Differential 21.7 minus 2 shots (see below) = 19.7 Handicap Index 

3 scores: lowest score -2

4 scores: lowest score -1

5 scores: lowest score

6 scores: average of lowest 2 scores -1

7 to 8 scores: average of lowest 2 scores

9 to 11 scores: average of lowest 3 scores

12 to 14 scores: average of lowest 4 scores

15 to 16 scores: average of lowest 5 scores

17 to 18 scores: average of lowest 6 scores

19 scores: average of lowest 7 scores

20 scores: average of lowest 8 scores

If YOU have any more questions regarding the New World Handicapping System please use the form on Intelligent golf  or contact Martyn Harris (m.d.harris124@btinternet.com) or Jill Hone (jillian.hone@live.co.uk)

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World Handicapping System Additional Questions and answers (30/11/2020)

  • Question: Do I have to put in any supplementary / extra cards for my handicap when we start back in the new season

Answer: NO - once you have your Handicap Index, you only have to return qualifying scores via Competition and such social golf where you state that it is for Handicap Purposes. Those who have not got a Handicap Index will have to submit a minimum number of 54 hole qualifying scores from either 18 or 9 holes 

  • Question: I have over 20 qualifying scores, and I now have a Handicap Index; what happens when I return further qualifying scores 

Answer: When the new season begins and you return a qualifying score; this simply replaces the oldest one in your 20 previous scores. Your "new 20 qualifying score differentials" will be recalculated overnight. This could have an affect on your Handicap Index. You will be able able to see this change when you go to IG > My Golf > My rounds or via your account with England Golf 

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  World Handicapping System Additional Questions and answers (13/11/2020)

Question: can anyone tell me the rationale is for Handicap Allowance for the 95% for Individual competitions?

Answer: from England Golf Rules of Handicapping Manual January 2020 

This is NOT MANDATORY, it remains the responsibility of the Club Competition administrator; however, for equity purposes, the Playing Handicap calculation, determines the number of strokes each player gives or receives, to ensure that all players can enjoy a fair and equal game when playing with or competing against one another.

 

Question: Will I be able to play off any tee?

                Answer: You will be able to return scores from any tee that has a course and slope rating for your gender.

                Club competitions will be organised with defined tees 

Question: Do I have to submit my score from every round of golf I play?

                Answer: NO!

                It will be mandatory to submit all singles competition scores, but you will have the option to submit social / recreational scores as long                  as they are pre-registered and conform to the Rules of Handicapping and Rules of Golf 

                Each time a score is submitted, your handicap index will be recalculated and updated for the next day of play, or soon after

Question: Will there still be a competition standard scratch (CSS) score?

                 Answer: NO!, but a playing conditions calculation (PCC) will adjust score differentials when abnormal course conditions cause scores                   to be unusually high or low. This will be based on how players have performed compared to their expected performance on that golf                       course.

Question: How is the PCC calculated if only one player submits a score for handicap purposes?

                 Answer: The PCC can only take place if at least eight acceptable scores have been submitted by players with a fully developed                                 handicap index of 36.0 or below. It is then applied retrospectively, after your score is posted, within the calculation of score                                       differentials for all players. 

  •                 A 0.0 adjustment means the course played as expected.

  •                 A -1.0 adjustment means the course played easier than normal.

  •                 A +1.0, +2.0 or +3.0 adjustment means the course played more difficult than normal. 

Question: But what happens if the weather is different in the morning and afternoon?

                 Answer:  Only one PCC calculation will take place, so both sets of conditions will be taken into consideration, like the existing CSS                         calculation. 

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World Handicapping System Additional Questions and answers (01/11/2020)

 

Tomorrow see the introduction of the New World Handicapping System

Please advise Jill Hone or Martyn Harris if you have any questions

  • If you have a question / query regarding the calculation for Handicap Index

  • I must advise that whilst I used the version by England Golf Handicapping Rules January 2020; there seems to be an addendum which uses the Competition Standard Scratch (CSS) as part of the equation

  • I have written to England Golf and Dot Golf to clarify

Other Questions 

Question: Is there danger that some golfers may try to manipulate their handicap under the WHS?

Answer: If a player has failed to submit a score, the handicap committee can replace that score with a penalty score, especially if it is something which keeps happening.

So, depending on what the player is trying to achieve, we counterbalance it by imposing a penalty to either increase or cut your handicap.

Ultimately, WHS cannot build a system to avoid manipulation. That is why handicap committees and other players play a vital role in checking / challenging those individuals who are trying to cheat.

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World Handicapping System Additional Questions and answers (31/10/2020)

Question: As a player will I have to understand the calculations of handicap Index, course and slope ratings

90 per cent of golfers do not need to know what calculations are used

What you do need to know is what your handicap index is and you can find that out via your club's handicap software or on the England Golf website or app, which we're launching on Monday, 2nd November 2020.

Once you have got that you need to convert that number using:

Course Handicap Chart (should be available at all courses)

Software App

Tees from which you are playing

That is all you need to worry about because the technology will do everything else for you.

The key thing to remember is H.C.P. =

Handicap index, Course handicap and Play golf.

Question: What is the Slope rating and Course rating

Answer: Slope Rating indicates the standard difficulty of a golf course for the "bogey golfer" relative to the "scratch player". Every set of tees will have a slope rating and those numbers will vary between 55 and 155. The higher the slope rating, the greater the difference expected between the scores of those scratch and bogey golfers.

QuestionWhat is a 'bogey golfer'?

Answer:This is the term used when carrying out a course rating. It represents the ability of a golfer (20 handicap for men, 24 for women) on a course of average difficulty. 

Question: How are golf courses rated?

Answer: All courses are rated under the USGA Course Rating System. There are five factors that are considered for each hole. These are:

- Roll: Assessment of how far a ball will roll on fairways with various surface conditions/contouring.
- Elevation: Difference in elevation between the tee and green and for a player's approach shot to the green.
- Wind: Average wind strength and direction.
- Forced lay-up: Where a player is forced to play short of obstacles that cross the fairway.
- Dog-leg: Where the dog-leg design of a hole does not allow a full tee shot to be played. 

There are also 10 other obstacles that are evaluated on each golf hole:

- Topography: Nature of the stance and lie within each landing zone and approach shot elevation to the green.
- Fairway: The width of fairway landing zones, hole length and nearby obstacles, including trees, hazards and rough.
- Green target: Evaluation of hitting the green with the approach shot and the visibility and nature of the green surface.
- Recoverability and rough: Difficulty of recovery if the tee shot landing zone and/or the green is missed.
- Bunkers: The size, depth and proximity to the landing zone and green.
- Crossing obstacle: Shot length to safely carry water, penalty areas, out of bounds or extreme rough.
- Lateral obstacle: The distance of obstacles from the centre of the fairway and green.
- Trees: The size, density and proximity of trees to the centre of the landing zone/green, shot length to target areas, and recovery difficulty.
- Green surface: Putting difficulty on a green. This considers green speed, surface contours and tiers.
- Psychological: Evaluation of the cumulative effect of the other nine obstacle factors.

Each obstacle is given a numerical value, from 0 to 10 (0 being non-existent, 10 being extreme). The process is repeated on every hole and for every tee. Through this data, a scratch and bogey rating are achieved. 

For those who want to know more about slope ratings

Question continued: What is the Course Rating

Course rating is the starting point. Every golf club is course and slope rated from every set of tees, and then there are separate ratings for men and women. This means that when you go to play a different golf club, your handicap index is based on a course of standard difficulty, rather than your home course. So, if you go and play, say, Woodhall Spa, your course handicap may be two or three strokes higher than your handicap index because the slope-rating value is higher than standard.

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World Handicapping System Additional Questions and answers (20/10/2020)

Question :        If I submit a 'no return' (NR), will I get a 0.1 increase on my handicap?

Answer: There are no 0.1 increases under the WHS.

Failure to submit your card after a bad round will not just land you with a bad reputation. The Handicap Committee will have the option to apply penalty scores, reset a handicap index, consider disciplinary action, or withdraw a handicap index for an agreed period. Even more reason to front up and accept that everyone has a bad day.

Exception: If you complete more than 10 holes but less than 14 holes in an 18-hole round, nett par plus one stroke must be added to the first hole not played. 

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World Handicapping System Additional Questions and answers (16/10/2020)

Question: My Handicap Index is say 6.7, looking at the Course Handicap sheets for the Blue, White and Yellow courses my Course handicap for all is 8, is that correct?

Answer: The Course Handicap calculation is Handicap Index X Slope of the specific course and divided by the neutral slope (113)

HI 6.7                          Blue       142         113                         8.4194

HI 6.7                          White    139         113                         8.2416

HI 6.7                          Yellow   134         113                         7.9451

Therefore the player's Course Handicap is 8 (as confirmed on the Course Handicap Charts in the foyer

 

 

World Handicapping System Additional Questions and answers (14/10/2020)

Question: What are the new slope ratings for the course?

Please note that the Par for the Yellow Course is incorrect  it is 72 (USGA and England Golf will amend)  

The Tytherington Course Handicap Tables - please see the link below

https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/track?uri=urn:aaid:scds:US:d8a548ad-815c-402e-8d03-d138858ed993

If you wish to view other course ratings please see link below 

https://ncrdb.usga.org (follow the information below) 

It will open up showing America - scroll down to see other countries (England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland have their own governing body)

Go to England - enter a golf club name (don't need to enter anything else). It should open up at the bottom of the page with the club details

This should be highlighted, just go to the club and press enter and then the course information should appear 

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World Handicapping System Additional Questions and answers (08/10/2020)

Question: How can I calculate my 9-hole handicap with the new Handicap System?

I play with a handicap of 23.1, when playing 9-hole competitions I am playing using 10.

I have seen three different calculation methods and want to make sure for when January and the new handicap system comes around that I know what I am doing?
 

Answer:

The initial calculation for the new World Handicap System "Handicap Index" for both 18-hole and 9-hole players is as follows

Score Differential = (113 ÷ Slope Rating) x (adjusted gross score - Course Rating)

When the system is in use - the Playing Condition Calculation PCC adjustment will be subtracted

N.B. "Score Differential" is the above calculation of each of the qualifying scores as above

To explain: from each qualifying round that you have registered back to January 2018 (now due to your health issues you have to date 11 such qualifying scores)

Under normal conditions most players will have more than 20 qualifying scores dating back to January 2018. From which the last 20 scores would be used and then the average of the best 8 score differentials would be used to identify their HANDICAP INDEX

However, for those players who have less than 20 qualifying scores, there is a calculation table. You have 11 qualifying scores; therefore, your Handicap Index will be based upon the average of the best 3 qualifying scores

If players have less than 20 Qualifying Scores posted in the last 2 years, the following calculation table will be used

3 scores: lowest score -2

4 scores: lowest score -1

5 scores: lowest score

6 scores: average of lowest 2 scores -1

7 to 8 scores: average of lowest 2 scores

9 to 11 scores: average of lowest 3 scores

12 to 14 scores: average of lowest 4 scores

15 to 16 scores: average of lowest 5 scores

17 to 18 scores: average of lowest 6 scores

19 scores: average of lowest 7 scores

20 scores: average of lowest 8 scores

From the current 11 Qualifying Score Differentials, the best 3 total 67.1

The average of the three will 67.1 / 3 = 22.4

This might change with additional qualifying scores

Question: Having now got my Handicap Index how do I calculate my "Course Handicap"?

Answer:

From Monday 2nd November 2020, all courses should have notice boards that will show the Course Handicaps for their golf courses

You will review your Handicap Index against the Course Handicap

The Tytherington Course Handicap Sheets have been prepared and will be displayed in the foyer by golf reception

In the situation where Course Handicap Boards are not available

Course Handicap Calculation

6.1a/ for an 18-Hole Round: An 18-hole Course Handicap is calculated as follows:

Course handicap = Handicap Index X (Slope Rating ÷ 113) + (Course rating - Par)

Note: An 18-hole Course handicap based on the same 9 holes is calculated as follows:

Course handicap = Handicap Index X (9-hole Slope ÷ 113) + (2 X 9-hole Course rating - 2 X 9-Hole Par)

6.1b/ for a 9 Hole Round: A 9-hole Course Handicap is calculated as follows:

Course handicap = (Handicap Index ÷ 2) X (9-Hole Slope Rating ÷ 113) + (9-hole Course rating - 9-hole Par)

(see appendix E: Stroke Index allocation: for guidance on stroke index allocation form 9-hole rounds

Rule 6.1b Interpretations

6.1b/The use of 9-hole course and slope ratings in the calculation of a 9-hole Course Handicap

When an authorised Association issue Course Ratings and Slope Ratings to Golf Clubs, the 18-hole ratings should also be presented with front nine and back nine Course Ratings, for example:

The calculation of a 9-hole Course Handicap must use the correct Slope Rating for the 9-hole golf course played  

See below for The Tytherington Club Course and Slope Ratings

 

 

PLEASE NOTE THAT IN THE ABOVE CHART THE YELLOW PAR IS SHOWN INCORRECTLY.

ENGLAND GOLF AND USGA WILL ADJUST IN FUTURE (COURSE RATING IS CORRECT)

The first questions regarding the World Handicapping System which Answers have been supplied

Q1/ Where are the course and slope ratings for The Tytherington Courses situated?

Answer: The details of the course and slope ratings can be seen on the notice board in the foyer by golf reception together with a variety of World Handicap Posters. The full display boards have been ordered and will be sited on the way to the 1st tee

Q2/ When will the Handicap Index be calculated?

Answer: England Golf will calculate member's "Handicap Index" for all English Golf Clubs by Monday 2nd November. intelligent Golf (I.G.) as the data processor will show these figures only then 

it may be possible to view your own personal Handicap Index if you have subscribed to England Golf Central Database for Handicaps (CDH), see this link: https://www.England golf.org/article/central-database-of-handicaps 

All members will shortly be asked to "OPT IN" to approve that their personal details will be used to transfer the handicap data from England Golf, Intelligent Golf and The Tytherington Club

Q3/ How is the condition adjustment calculated for historical rounds as part of the Handicap Index Calculation?

Answer: The "Adjusted Gross Score" (which under CONGU used to be the Competition Standard Scratch Score (CSS)) for each of the last 20 Qualifying Scores will be used as part of the calculation

The initial calculation for Handicap Index (as per England Golf / United States Golfing Association (USGA):

Score Differential  = (113 ÷ Slope Rating) X (Adjusted Gross Score - Course Rating)

The "score differential" is for each qualifying score in the player's history. The Handicap Index will be derived from the list of "score differentials" from the list of the player's qualifying scores (which for most players this will be the last 20 scores back to January 2018). Then the average then from the best 8 score differentials 

When the new handicap  system is fully in use - the PLAYING CONDITION CALCULATION (PCC) adjustment will be subtracted from the above calculation 

Should you have further questions regarding The New World Handicapping System, please use the section on Intelligent Golf (I.G.) > Information > WHS 

Martyn Harris and Jill Hone 

The Tytherington Handicaps 


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